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Published on:

7th Oct 2024

E67 - Holistic Approach to Addiction Recovery with Dr. Richard Ruhling

 Overcoming Addictions: A Holistic Approach

In this episode of the Prisoner's Pardon Podcast, host Michi J. discusses the concept of food and substance triggers that could hinder recovery from addiction with special guest Dr. Richard Ruling. Dr. Ruling provides insights into how certain foods and substances can lead to addictions and discusses a five-day plan to quit smoking and other addictions using a holistic approach that includes hydration, diet moderation, deep breathing exercises, and the avoidance of caffeine and alcohol. He emphasizes the power of biblical teachings and spiritual support in overcoming challenges. The episode also explores the role of faith and spirituality in healing and personal growth, highlighting testimonials of individuals who have successfully overcome addiction through holistic means. Dr. Ruling introduces activated charcoal powder as a detox aid and promotes his book, 'Health, Happiness and Destiny,' as a resource for further guidance.

00:00 Introduction to Food Triggers

01:26 Special Guest: Dr. Richard Ruling

02:02 Prison Perspectives and Attitudes

05:24 Holistic Approach to Overcoming Addictions

07:28 Five-Day Plan to Quit Smoking

16:32 The Role of Faith in Recovery

22:24 Practical Tips and Final Thoughts

Transcript
Michi J:

Hello, everyone.

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And welcome to a prisoner's pardon

podcast with me, your host, Michi J.

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Have you ever thought about food triggers?

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I mean, have you ever thought

about how certain foods can

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lead you down the wrong path?

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We often think about that when

we think about people, but have

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we actually made that connection?

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When we think about food,

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Well, a lot of us have gotten smart.

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About thinking about that

when it comes to people.

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Now we do need to start

thinking about this when it

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comes to food triggers as well.

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Michi J: Do we even know what they are?

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Do we stay away from them

or just at least limit them?

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Well, it's time for us to get smart about

what these foods are and how it can just

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lead to addictions and even diseases.

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Most importantly, we want to look

at how these foods hinder recovery.

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Yes.

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Certain foods can hinder.

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Recovery.

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Michi J: On our show today, we're

going to begin that process of

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just getting smart, and that's

why I have today a special guest.

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His name is Dr.

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Richard Ruling.

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He is a medical doctor, a teacher, he's a

speaker, he's been all over, he's also an

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author and he's written this particular

book I want him to speak about is the book

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on health, happiness and destiny that come

from wise choices and we need to get wise.

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So join me in welcoming Dr ruling.

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Hello.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Hi,

thank you so much, Michi J.

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Good to be with you.

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God bless you and your ministry.

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And as I understand it, this is

a prison ministry to some extent.

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And I just would like to keep that in

mind in addressing your main audience.

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Because as I mentioned to you, I

had a friend that went to prison

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for 14 years for a stupid mistake,

but it shouldn't have been 14.

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And it's not happy.

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But on the other hand, I remember a little

poem that two men looked out from prison

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bars, One saw mud, the other saw stars.

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You know, it's a perspective and, uh, we

can't help, uh, necessarily the things

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that come, but our attitudes are important

and, uh, attitude is like altitude,

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uh, higher attitudes is like a higher

altitude to give a better view of life.

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And so, uh, we can be thankful.

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Uh, it is our circumstances aren't worse.

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And, uh, in prison, they do in

this country, they get, , food,

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, clothing, , medical care if needed.

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Uh, that's not really my prime best thing.

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I think medical care is potentially

dangerous because of the drugs, , even,

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, having adverse side effects, et cetera.

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But, uh,, prisons, uh,, my friend

got, , some education while in

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there, learning, , certain things

that he is applying now as he's out.

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And, , I think that, , take

advantage of all you can learn.

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And, , and, , on that topic, let me

just suggest that, , most prisons

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have available, I think, a Bible.

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Scripture is, , a better education

than almost anything else we

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could want, in my opinion.

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If looking back on it, I have 25

years of training and education,

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but I would spit on it compared

to what I'm learning in the Bible.

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Most of that is not practical.

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I don't need, uh, calculus nearly finished

me in college, as a matter of fact.

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But, uh, government, uh, history.

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Uh, English literature,

uh, who needs that?

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You know, at this point, , we need

to understand how to live better.

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And, uh, uh, basically I see that

in the Bible, God's guidelines.

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If we lie, cheat and steal, we're

not happy people, you know, and

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basically, , if we live well and

are trying to do the best we know

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and share good stuff with others.

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, we feel good in response

because we're giving them value.

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If we cheat them, we're going to

try to avoid them, uh, et cetera.

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Not good, , it's better to, live well.

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And, uh, I, I see that God has

given us the guidelines for that.

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And, uh, and there's a reward for that

because just like people in prison

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hope to get out early on probation.

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This life is probation for us.

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If we live well, there's a hereafter

for us that's better than anything.

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Uh, you know, if, if I could be in

the White House, it would still be the

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wrong house, as far as I'm concerned,

compared to what God wants for us.

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Yes.

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And that's what God wants for us.

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He wants the best for us.

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If you listened to our last episode.

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Rob talked about how he used.

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God to help him get out

of the grip of addiction.

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And that's what God wants for us.

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He doesn't want us to be

imprisoned by addiction.

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As you heard Dr.

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Ruhlin say just a few moments ago

Prescribed drugs can have adverse effects.

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One of those affects is a person

can become addicted to the drug.

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I've heard this many times from

people in recovery that they became

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addicted to the drug that they

were taken to help them get well.

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And this is why we need to

do the holistic approach.

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And using a holistic approach

is also looking at the

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spiritual aspects of things.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: I would like

to share an experience by way of an

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illustration because, uh, one of my

favorite authors says one example

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is worth many precepts or teachings.

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Yeah.

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And, uh, it was my privilege while

taking internal medicine to help

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in a five day plan to stop smoking.

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That was at the University of Arizona.

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And, uh, I, I was actually sharing

with, uh, a couple others who did

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speaking as well, uh, each night for

five nights and at the, on the fifth

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night, more than a hundred people

raised their hand and said they had

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not smoked in the previous 24 hours.

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Um, I had a man in a little town

of Southwest City, Missouri, tell

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me, uh, actually he was the mayor.

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He said, Doc, I've tried many

times to quit, but this is the

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easiest I've ever found it.

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Now, I'm not saying it's easy.

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But what I want to share with your

people right now can help them with

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addictions, plural, not just smoking.

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Uh, alcohol can be an

addiction for some people.

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Caffeine can be an addiction.

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And, uh, in quitting smoking, the idea is

to, uh, I think, uh, make a strong choice.

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Uh, now, if I said, for example, to a

group of people, uh, I have a friend

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who has got lots of money, a billion,

and he would give a million dollars to

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anybody who quit smoking, I think most

people would find a way to get it done.

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It's, it's the strength of, of,

of determination and conviction.

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I have to add here, . That.

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It takes both.

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It takes.

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Determination and conviction

alongside with having help.

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You can't do it by yourself.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: And the truth is that.

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That, um, these addictions do more

than a million dollars worth of damage

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to us because life is, is, is too

precious to give away for, for money.

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Basically, you can't get it back with

medical care, which costs money, etc.

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Once it's gone, uh,

it's, it's, it's too bad.

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I want to share the ingredients

to this five day program.

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To stop smoking , it was founded

by an MD doctor, , Wayne McFarland

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who, understood how the body reacts.

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And, there are, about

five simple things.

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Number one, a strong conviction.

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I choose not to smoke.

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Don't promise anybody because if you

break , you think, oh, I gave up.

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I quit.

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I can't do that.

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but if we just make a

mistake and we have one more.

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get up and do it again, , the idea

is the next smoke is really the habit.

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Don't try to taper, , just say this.

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I'm quitting, you know, and, and, and we

recognize there's going to be a few days.

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Uh, really bad feelings, and,

uh, you know, some people think

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they're going to climb the wall,

but I'm going to help right now

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with things that will minimize that.

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Because the urge to smoke, or the

urge for whatever the addiction , is,

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is short lived, and uh, it, it,

it, You know, it's kind of like

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needing to go to the bathroom.

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If you say, no, I can't go right now,

uh, you forget about it for a while.

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You know, it comes back, of course, and

sooner or later you do have to empty your

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bladder, but you don't have to, uh, uh,

necessarily take the addiction thing.

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And so if you have , a strategy of what

to do to stall it off, when you get a

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craving, take some lung exercises, deep

breaths, as deep as you can breathe.

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Blow all the air out until you

can't blow any more air out.

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The moving of your diaphragm up

and down to fill your lungs and

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empty them stimulates your adrenal

glands on top of the kidneys.

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It squirts out a little juice

that makes you feel better.

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This is why public speakers, when

they get nervous, are told, before

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you get up, take some deep breaths.

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Okay.

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And, uh, and you feel better

having had some deep breaths.

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And the same way with

smoking or any addiction.

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And, uh, stalling it off.

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By having a strategy where you say,

uh, I'm going to go for a, um, a drink

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of water because sometimes throat

irritation is a signal for a smoke.

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It triggers the body.

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I can eat a smoke or, um, think

of the water that you're going to

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drink as a, um, uh, an antibiotic.

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Uh, washing the nicotine

out of the kidneys.

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Okay, so the quicker you get rid

of all the nicotine, the better.

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In fact, diet can help you on that

because if you load your system with

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heavy foods, uh, it's gonna take longer

for the nicotine to get out and those

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heavy foods make your brain foggy.

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And you can, you know, uh,

too much food in the stomach

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means no blood in the brain.

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And the, the, uh, uh, frontal lobes of

the brain have the fine, delicate nerves

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where you make your choices and decisions.

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And those fine nerves have

fine, narrow blood vessels.

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And if you, if you eat too much, you

just don't have enough circulation

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to, for the willpower to say, hey, no.

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, I knew a pathologist, a woman, who

helped in stop smoking programs, and

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she said, uh, and understanding the

body well, she said, for quitting

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smoking fast for the first day.

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Don't eat any food.

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A lot of times smokers after a

meal that they want to smoke right

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away because their nicotine level

is dropping into the bloodstream.

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So, don't eat the food, but just,

uh, uh, or if you're going to eat,

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eat a fruit diet for the first day,

have some fruit juices between meal.

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If, if you do anything between

meals, have fruit juices.

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It's better not to do between meals.

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If you, if you can do that and, and

just, uh, eat a, a light diet or, or

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nothing at all for the first day, it

intensifies your willpower and you'll.

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You'll be off to a better start when

you say no, uh, if you, if you try to

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taper, think of this as like cutting,

uh, uh, the tail off of a dog, one inch

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at a time, each time you cut that tail,

uh, the dog hurts and yelps and so on.

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But if you get it one good whack,

you know, get rid of it all, uh,

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you don't have to hurt cut it again.

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It's painful for a few days,

but then the dog heals.

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Michi J: Okay.

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Let me, let me, I'm sorry to interrupt.

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Sure.

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Okay.

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First off, we're saying to drink water,

don't eat too much because that actually

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makes you tired and don't even have

the strength to fight off anything.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Right.

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Michi J: so either fast or have

a very light diet something like

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fruit juices and stuff like that.

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And that's going to help with that.

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These are the sort of strategies

along with deep breathing.

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Is that right?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Yes.

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And the deep breathing

can be aided by exercise.

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Going for a short walk out to the mailbox

or to the corner or around the block,

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uh, encourages deep breathing and think

of this as a, as a lifestyle change.

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Uh, everything you're choosing to do

differently now is because you want to

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quit smoking and all those efforts are

strengthening your willpower to quit.

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So, uh, Make the habit changes.

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Don't, after a smoke, uh, sit

down in your favorite chair or

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after a meal, sit in your favorite

chair where you want to smoke.

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Get out and go for a

walk instead, or so on.

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Call a neighbor.

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Have a buddy that, uh, uh, someone

that wants you to quit smoking, not

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somebody that smokes with you, okay?

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And, and just say, hey, I'm quitting.

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Uh, uh, give me a call, uh, once or

twice a day maybe, or, uh, I'll give

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you a call when I really have a craving.

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Maybe you can talk me

out of it, or whatever.

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So, uh, those are ideas, uh, for a

strategy, uh, along with, uh, and if

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you exercise, you'll sleep better.

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Uh, so good sleep, uh, helps your nerves.

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And, uh, but the huge thing in

this is, uh, a couple of things

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that you really gotta say no to,

and that's caffeine and alcohol.

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Because caffeine gears your nerves

up, and nicotine gears them down.

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And together, they keep you in balance.

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If you try to quit smoking and,

and yeah, what numbs your nerves

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is not there, your nerves are going

to go out the roof with caffeine.

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And, uh, so, uh, quitting both makes

it easier to quit than if you say, Oh,

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I can't quit both at the same time.

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I'm just going to quit one.

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You're in trouble.

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Okay.

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But if you will quit both.

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And not use any alcohol that affects

those fine, delicate nerves up

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in the brain for your willpower.

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You'll be, you'll be better

able to cope with this.

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And, uh, and even eating food

lightly, instead of, uh, uh,

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uh, pigging out for the week.

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Uh, you can, you can tolerate, uh,

uh, an absence of food or a, a,

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a low level with, with fruit as a

detox agent, you know, type of thing.

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Michi J: So some of the triggers you're

saying is the bad triggers is caffeine.

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alcohol and too much food.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Yes, that's correct.

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Uh, rich food, uh, uh, you know,

uh, pies, cakes, uh, um, chips.

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I, I remember, uh, I think I met,

uh, my medical school did a study

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with rats and gave them a choice

of alcohol or water to drink.

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And if they were on a good

diet, they chose water.

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But if they were on a poor diet,

They chose alcohol in preference.

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If they added coffee and 11 spices.

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The alcohol consumption soared very

high, and if they changed the diet

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back to a bland, simple diet, uh, the

alcohol consumption dropped off again.

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So a lot of this, uh, we do it to

ourselves by choices, and so, uh, we

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can make better choices, especially

during the time of quitting, which is

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really about, uh, uh, this is the five

day plan, because you can get, um,

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most people The great majority will

have the alcohol or the tobacco or the

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caffeine out of the system in five days.

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And, uh, actually, if you look at

your hand extended, um, the first

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day of the little finger is, is bad.

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Second day, a little

higher, a little worse.

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Third day is the peak for most people.

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Fourth day, a little better.

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And then the thumb really dropped down.

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The fifth night they say,

Hey, we're going to make it.

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And, uh, if you can do that,

uh, following the steps and keep

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in mind that, uh, whatever it

is that you're trying to break.

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Uh, that next, uh, smoke, that next

drink, uh, uh, is the whole habit.

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Okay, don't think, oh, I just want

it once and then I'll quit later.

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Uh, you won't quit later if you give

into this one, probably, you know.

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You can get up and try again in the

five day plan we encourage people.

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Uh, is a little child learning to walk.

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Uh, he falls down a lot of

times, but he keeps getting up

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and he finally learns to walk.

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And we can do that.

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Michi J: I like how you, you brought

in the practical because these are

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something that, um, people can understand

and really get a hold of and do.

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So you talked about a buddy, having

a buddy and a buddy is going to do

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exactly what again is to motivate

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Dr Richard Ruhling: you.

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He's sympathetic.

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He wants to help.

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He can try to encourage you

if you call him to say, Hey,

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uh, I'm having a rough day.

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Uh, in fact, uh, from a Christian

perspective, it's good to have a

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Christian buddy who, who can pray

with you even and say, God help us.

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Uh, we all have troubles, trials,

difficulties, but, uh, we, we need

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your spirit and, uh, give us wisdom.

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We know that we're not

going to die from this.

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Hang on there and, uh, you

can make it, uh, hang tight.

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Michi J: So, and doctor, in your

perspective, because I'm a tap

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into your spirit, um, your, because

you wrote a lot of books, I've

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seen you're very well versed.

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So in your opinion, why would, we're

going to talk about two characters.

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We're going to talk about the Lord

himself as well as the enemy, which

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we normally know as the devil.

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So why would the, why would the enemy

want a person to keep being addicted?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Well, because, uh,

when we, when we, uh, first of all,

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they ultimately will ruin the body.

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Alcoholics die of cirrhosis or

cancer of the esophagus, uh, liver,

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whatever, you know, different problems.

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Uh, hey, uh, I recently saw an

article on caffeine and, and, uh,

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coffee, how it's good for you.

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This is crazy and stupid because

they haven't seen it from my

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perspective as a physician.

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There are a dozen things that caffeine or

coffee can do to you, uh, as soft drinks

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that, uh, are bad starting at the top.

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I'll just give you a quick review.

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Um, uh, people, uh, by the way,

when they try to quit coffee or, uh,

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caffeine, many of them get a headache.

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And the drug companies put caffeine

in Anacin or, uh, Excedrin.

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Uh, Excedrin is just

Tylenol plus caffeine.

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Anacin is just aspirin plus caffeine.

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Uh, caffeine, and so when people

have a withdrawal headache, They

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take anacin or excedrin and they

feel, oh, that's a great medicine.

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Well, but they're still addicted then.

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If they would just quit it all and don't

use anacin or excedrin, uh, they can

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take a plain aspirin or plain Tylenol,

take a couple of them, or something

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else from your doctor if you wish,

but generally I'm, I'm trying to help

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people avoid doctors because it's come

back, come back, take this drug, take

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that, and sooner or later they're on a

bunch of, a bag of pills and, and you

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don't know which pill is causing what.

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You know, with such symptoms,

adverse drug reactions.

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Go ahead.

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Michi J: So the enemy wants you to

do this because one, it's going to

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shorten your life, your life, and you

won't be able to do productive things.

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Because this, this addiction,

this bad habit is going to keep

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forcing his hand and interrupt.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: It's, it's elusive.

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Uh, we think we can do whatever

we want, but, uh, the more we do

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those things, the less we feel

like doing, uh, the good things.

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So, uh, I would just say, and speaking

of the caffeine again, going from

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the top of the head down, headaches,

trouble sleeping, Trouble with nerves.

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I've had, uh, I wish I had a 10 bill

now for everybody that wanted something

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for their nerves, a tranquilizer,

you know, because really I would ask

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them how much coffee do you think?

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Well, quite a bit, you know,

so it's a problem that way.

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And, uh, uh, the, the, you've seen

pictures with little kids with a,

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uh, uh, an ugly looking upper lip.

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They have hair, hair lip or cleft palate

where they, even their words are sounding

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a little funny, uh, an appeal for surgery.

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Well, the problem with those, uh,

little kids is that their mother

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was drinking too much caffeine in

the first trimester of pregnancy.

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That has been linked to excessive

caffeine intake, uh, during

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pregnancy, coffee, et cetera.

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a thousand dollars for surgery, just, hey,

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quit, uh, quit the, uh, drinking of that

during pregnancy and quit it all the time.

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It's not good for us.

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Uh, I took a year of cardiology and in

my training, uh, the coronary care unit.

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Did not allow coffee or caffeine because

in the context of a, of a heart attack.

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It lowers the threshold for

ventricular fibrillation, which

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is a fatal arrhythmia, especially

in the context of a heart attack.

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Michi J: there we go

with that word trigger.

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So it's triggering it.

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So that caffeine is triggering.

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We need some good triggers.

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So the good triggers would be

water, exercise, good sleep.

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Have a nice sleep.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Actually,

they're, they're, in a sense,

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they all help the body.

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I don't think of them as triggers,

per se, like, uh, the negatives.

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Negatives trigger and shoot you dead.

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But, uh, I think of, uh, all of those

as, if you're really feeling strong

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and well and calm, who needs a, a,

a drink of this or a smoke of that?

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It's when we get to feeling bad that we

think this is going to help us and it's

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only because of the withdrawal symptom

if we didn't have withdrawal symptoms,

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we wouldn't need those things at all.

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I don't, I'm 83 and I'm in great health

because I've done it right all my life.

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I have never smoked a single cigarette

and I've never had a drink of alcohol.

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Michi J: Yeah, I was the reason

why I say triggers is because,

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you know, it can be good or bad.

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It's going to lead to something else.

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That's what I'm saying.

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What's going to motivate you and

you, uh, and it helps me to think of.

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Just flipping it and make looking

and finding the good triggers because

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I need to be triggered in the right

direction So I need to find that's

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why I'm thinking of it like that to

help because it can not just one thing

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I'll just do this and then that's it.

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But I look at it.

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It's going to give me the momentum to

Go down the right path versus going the

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wrong way what these other triggers the

negative ones would do So yeah, that's

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why I was thinking about triggers.

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So we talked about water eating too much

Going on to a lighter diet exercises

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fruit juices a good buddy, and also,

um, just having a companion that's, you

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know, have Christian values that can

pray for you and direct you toward God.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: I would like to

talk more about that, but one last

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natural remedy that may be helpful

is a, if people had in their medicine

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cupboard, most of it is junk and things

I wouldn't want, but Charcoal powder,

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uh, capsules, uh, tablets, whatever can

be very helpful in the emergency room.

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When people overdose, they

came in maybe even comatose.

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We would pump their stomach.

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they're still breathing and so on, uh,

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when they come in, they're likely to

survive, uh, with treatment to pump their

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stomach and, and use charcoal because

charcoal, one capsule has the surface

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area microscopically of a football field.

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It, uh, it will absorb toxins

and poisons and, uh, I have

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used it for, uh, snake bites.

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Uh, you know, put a little poultice

or compress over the ankle where

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the, where the bite was, et cetera.

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And it will draw, uh, uh, the poison

and give some internally, uh, it, it

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absorbs toxin and poisons in the body.

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It's not a drug.

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Uh, it has no bad side effects,

except maybe you might get

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a little bit constipated.

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Or something, but this is,

uh, it's, it's not a chemical.

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Okay.

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It's just a, uh, um, and

they can buy it cheaply.

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It's not like a drug where you have to

pay a lot of money for it, but have it

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in the medicine cupboard for when you

might think you have reacted badly.

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Sometimes people, uh, have gas.

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You know, and this is a good cure,

a natural remedy for gas as well.

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And so our indigestion,

uh, it's excellent.

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So I just want to throw that out.

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And now going to the, uh,

comment about, uh, God.

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Um, a lot of people today,

uh, think that God is out.

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God is dead.

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Where is he?

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Why?

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Why is he allowing so

much trouble in the world?

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Well, think about it.

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God cannot be a universal bellboy to

answer everybody's prayer right now.

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Okay.

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Uh, he does answer prayer.

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Sometimes it's, uh, it's, uh,

Occasionally it might be right now and

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we've all maybe you can talk to people

and you'll find some that had had an

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experience like, wow, that's amazing.

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That was a miracle.

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I remember.

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Hey, in fact, right now, I can tell

you within the past week, Robert F.

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Kennedy Jr, who was running for president.

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Now he's with Trump.

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He's he tells his journey to God.

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He actually became an addict

for 14 years to heroin.

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And he said, it's a terrible

thing, you become a liar, etc.

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But, um, he told how he came

across a book called Synchronicity

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by Carl Jung, a psychiatrist.

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And ordinarily, I don't like, Psychiatry,

uh, as a, as a group of people,

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psychiatrists have been less able to stop

smoking than other medical specialists

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because they, they reason it out and they

end up the reasons with, well, I just

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have another smoke, I guess, you know,

it's, it's a, it's an atheistic view,

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but this Carl, uh, young, uh, spelled

J U N G, uh, saw if out of many years

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of experience, he could not prove God.

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But he said people with a faith in

God did better with their problems

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and their addictions and so on.

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They, uh, they, uh, uh, relapsed better.

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They lived well longer, et cetera.

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And I can say, uh, it's to me, the word

God is like starting a crossword puzzle

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with the right word in the beginning.

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If you have God in the beginning, then

it fits in with the different words,

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hog and dog and things like that.

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Uh, it's, uh, you know, in life,

uh, God, it'll go better with you.

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If you look to God for help, I, uh, he

will, he doesn't always do what we want

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him to do, but he, uh, he can, uh, work

it out so that things do work for good.

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And trusting his word in the

Bible is, is an important key.

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, Michi J: would you say the charcoal

powder capsules, they're like a detox?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: They

help the detox process.

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They'll help you get the get the whatever

it is If it's nicotine or caffeine or some

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poison in your system, they absorb it.

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So it goes out in your bowel

movement, you know Uh, so it'll

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Michi J: make it faster detox.

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Yes,

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Dr Richard Ruhling: exactly.

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That's right.

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Okay.

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Michi J: All right, so Where do

where could we get those from?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Uh, any drugstore

should have them, uh, sadly, uh,

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because they tend to turn drug, uh,

tests negative, uh, sometimes, uh, uh,

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governments don't want, the charcoal

to be available, they want to know your,

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if you're doing it, they want to find it

in your blood, but it, it can help get

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it out of your system, and I would say

look for it and keep it in your medicine

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cupboard and use it when you don't

feel so well, and give it a, uh, uh, 24

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hours, you'll feel, be feeling better.

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Michi J: So, um, about

how much does it cost?

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Do you know, generally?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Uh, probably under 10.

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Michi J: Really that cheap?

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Dr Richard Ruhling: It's not a drug.

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It's a natural product.

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Uh, it might be more.

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I don't know.

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I, I haven't, truthfully,

haven't bought any recently.

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Uh, I'm living well and, and, uh,

what I have is, is lasting well, but

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activated charcoal is, is activated

means that it will be more active in

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this process than just plain charcoal.

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Michi J: Okay.

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Never thought about it.

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Cause anytime we talk about charcoal,

I'm thinking about barbecues.

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Now we're going to be

looking at it different.

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That's that makes a lot of sense.

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So , I like how , we're looking at

it holistically along with, praying.

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And, , my last episode talked

about how addiction is.

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Wrestling.

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It's a wrestling match, but this has

given us more to work with and not just

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telling people, Oh, just pray and do that

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Dr Richard Ruhling: I just wanted to say, uh, our, our faith is

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strengthened by reading the scripture

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it's not as easy reading, but God

knows the end from the beginning,

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, in closing, uh, say that, uh, it was my

privilege to attend a leadership training

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institute for Campus Crusade for Christ.

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And they had what they call

the four spiritual laws.

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And, uh, the first one is that God loves

us and has a wonderful plan for our life.

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Thank you.

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And the second law is that man is sinful,

separated from God, and we really can't

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know his best for us in our fallen state.

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But the third law is that Christ came

to bridge the gap between God and man.

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He showed us a better life.

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It's not impossible.

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It's not easy, of course, but

we can do the right things.

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His guidelines are for our best good.

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And the fourth Uh, law is that we

have to personally receive Christ.

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It's not just a matter

of knowing the good.

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We have to say, God, I'm, I'm making

this commitment to you as, as Robert F.

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Kennedy, uh, said in his journey toward

God, he was reading Carl Young and

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Young said, fake it till you make it.

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In other words, do the things, go

through the steps, say, I'm going

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to do this and, uh, God will be

with you in that and you'll, uh,

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gain somehow one way or the other.

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Uh, in fact, uh, Kennedy said that he

had this amazing experience shortly

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after one of his readings and so on.

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He was playing volleyball and, uh, uh,

the ball was hit very high, came down on

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a post And bounced toward the fence and

he, he, uh, as the ball hit the post, he

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doesn't know why he didn't figure it out.

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But he said that ball is going

to get run over by a Mac truck.

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Why in the world would he say

that it bounced on the fence?

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And went toward, uh, out of the

volleyball court toward the, uh,

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down the hill toward the road.

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And would you believe, a Mack truck

ran over that ball and popped it.

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And, uh, so, and he, Kennedy

figured out that that was God.

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Okay, God knew his thoughts,

uh, or gave him that thing.

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It was a, we all had coincidences

where, hey, could that be God doing it?

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Give God the credit.

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And go with it.

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I mean, just live the best you can.

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And his word, the Bible, is the

best way to really find it out.

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I would say for people that

aren't Christians, start

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with the book of John, maybe.

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It's a relational type of thing.

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In John, first chapter, John the Baptist

announced, uh, Christ as the lamb of God.

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He, the lamb died for our sins.

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Okay.

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He, in Isaiah 53, the Jews don't get

it, but in their book of Isaiah 53,

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Christ was the lamb slain to reconcile

us to God, to see that God loves us

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and he pays for our sins, et cetera.

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And we can forget them and live well with

him, with his help and by his spirit.

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So I thank you for letting me,

uh, share this opportunity.

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Michi J: Well, thank you for talking to

us as a medical doctor and also letting

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us really get a chance to, , hear how

this holistic approach of first, you

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know, using water, not eating too much,

having a light diet, fruit juices,

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Having exercise, sleep, all these

basic things that we should be doing

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anyway, and we're seeing now if we don't

do these things, how it can lead to

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addictions and ultimately to diseases.

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What in the last thing you

want to say to the audience?

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Um, thank you so much,

first of all, for coming.

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Dr Richard Ruhling: Well, you're welcome.

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And the point is that the book you

mentioned, uh, health, happiness

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and destiny has a lot in it and

they can get it online for cheap.

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Okay.

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It's a digital copy, but they,

they could, if they can go to

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health, happiness and destiny.

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com health, happiness and destiny.

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com and can, um, for 2.

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99, I believe it is, or if

95, they can get the book.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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Michi J: Thank you so much.

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that's great to have it written down

for everybody just to grab right quick.

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And like you said, that's very

cheap and it's a lot cheaper

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than going to the doctor.

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I tell you that.

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So thank you so much.

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And audience.

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Thank you for listening.

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And may you have a week

filled with blessings.

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A Prisoner’s Pardon, through storytelling, describes how prisoners are set free from physical and/or spiritual prisons (ex. Domestic & Drug Abuse) only via a pardon and not a reform program.

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Michi J is a Chicago native who now lives in the Milwaukee area. By day, she works as an energy-industry analyst; she spends her remaining hours pursuing her lifelong passion of exploring and proclaiming the coming Kingdom of Christ. Her fiction and non-fiction writing explores, through storytelling, the parallel existence of physical and spiritual laws. Her favorite authors include Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, Charles Spurgeon, C.S. Lewis, A.W.Tozer, Dr. Tony Evans, Erwin Raphael McManus, and Kitty Foth-Regner.